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Wake up by Starlow-FTW Wake up by Starlow-FTW
Josef Stalin, Vladimir Lenin, Mao ZeDong, Kim Jong Il, enough said.

Wake up, people! Every group in existence has bloody history. Christians have the crusades, Muslims have today, Atheists have Asia, Jews have the time in the Roman Empire, and so on! Come on, people!

Do you know why these monsters use Christianity, or atheism, or what have you, to do what they do? Because that is their shield! Their cover. What authority would the pope in the middle ages have if he didn't brainwash the people under some fallacy that he was God's representative?

Atheists can be good people. Christians can be bad people. That's the reality. Can't we all just get along? Clowns like those examples come to power when people forget that I, a Christian, have blood just as red as an atheist's, or a Jew's, or a Muslim's.

You have been educated. Keep the applause to yourself. :lol: I'm terrible.
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Robotic-Mind Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2015
Today, being an atheist is synonym of being smart, while being christian is synonym of being dumb.
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2015
Sadly, this is true.  It's ridiculous and unfounded.
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Sima2001 Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2015  New member
i love this stamp!
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userup Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2015
Examples of atheists society, ussr, prcs, khemer rouge, laos...
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Cloud-Seroku Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Tru
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MissMuffinTop Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2015   Writer
Finally one of these that actually identifies atheists correctly...mostly. I'm not sure about Kim Jong Il. Dude seems like he's pulling a living god gambit, which is like, autotheism or some bullshit like that. 
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2015
I'm going to agree with you, my friend.  I guess it begs the question as to whether worshiping the state is in itself a religion.  Or, to put it conversely, does religion require a deity?  The Kim Jong family are insane, I have to wonder if they believe themselves or if they return to their palace, overlook the ruins of the city, and laugh. 
That said, North Korea bans all other religions- Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, you name it, they put you to death for it. 
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MissMuffinTop Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2015   Writer
They probably don't take kindly to liberalism, either. I know Saudi Arabia doesn't. xD
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2015
Of course, the common denominator for ALL mass killings and atrocities has been a lack of freedom.  Notice how, Christian, atheist, Muslim, what have you... notice how every nation like that basically lacks freedom, a democratic process?  That's what North Korea, Nazi Germany, the Medieval Papacy, and the USSR all had in common.
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MissMuffinTop Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2015   Writer
It's almost like oppressing people is wrong and has dire inevitable consequences or something. o:
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2015
Heck, in North Korea they got the natives believing that Kim Jong Un rode a unicorn to battle against Barack Obama... or something to that effect.  The point is that people do bad things irrespective of religion or lack thereof, people do bad things because there is evil in the world which will triumph so long as good men (and women) stand idle. 
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MissMuffinTop Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2015   Writer
Why do I feel like Barack Obama would win against Kim Jong Un on a unicorn?
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2015
That depends though; if we gave Obama a golf club, I'm sure he'd prevail. He's spent plenty of time perfecting his swing, after all ;3. 
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BenUnDrownd Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2015
Yes but the thing is those guys never did it in the name of atheism. You never hear of an atheist stabbing a blocke and yell "FOR EVOLUTOIN!"
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Blueneonkid Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Dude, wake up, Stalin killed Christians because they believed! What more evidence do you need?
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BenUnDrownd Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2015
He din't do it in the name of athism but to furter his own agenda
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Blueneonkid Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Sure. And ISIS isn't killing in the name of religion right?
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BenUnDrownd Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2015
Sorry but did Stalin say "They dont follow the holy rules of atheism they must die"?
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2015
You can be atheist and not believe in evolution.  Secondly, you don't have to yell "FOR <insert belief here>" at all.  However, actions are determined by your character.  If you kill Christians and burn churches down to destroy religion, that means you are doing it to further atheism (why you'd want to do that is irrelevant).  If you kill Muslims to destroy all non Christians, you are doing it to further Christianity even though you're doing a poor job of it.  Why is it that the Catholic church was said to kill in the name of religion, but committing atrocities for furthering atheism is somehow impossible? 
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BenUnDrownd Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2015
Becease a person never killed some one becease they inulted atheism or insulted Darwin or didn't follow the rules of atheism.
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2015
Yes they did.  Atheism has one rule- not being religious.  Are you saying atheists never killed someone because they were religious in some way? 
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BenUnDrownd Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2015
Not becease they were religious but killing for atheism
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2015
Again, yes they did.  It happened throughout the cold war.  Sorry, I actually believe in holding everybody to the exact same standards. :P
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BenUnDrownd Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2015
They killed them so poeple would obey Stalin not follow a religoen not for atheism
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HopeSwings777 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2015
I agree 
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illness-the-wolf Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Finally someone who doesn't blame Christians for all the world's problems.
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kal444 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015
The difference is not one of them yelled as a battle cry 'for atheism!' No, not at all.

Whatcha have heard is 'for god/allah/odin'

The difference is atheism as a group is largely more independently defined then religions, for atheism says 'I lack faith in a god(s)' the rest is up to the atheist completely... Like me! (Pro-40k imperium, hate everything, but humanity!)
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015
Actually, yes, there have been plenty of "for atheism!" battle cries, although perhaps the word atheism isn't used.  You might hear secularism, humanism, what have you, but when the leader of the Soviet Union burns down synagogues, mosques and churches, I doubt he did it for religion.  He did it because competing religions get in the way of the authority of the state, not unlike the pope burning people at the stake because, wow, would ya look at that, because competing religions get in the way of the authority of the church. 

People keep making excuses saying that atheism isn't a belief.  Actually, yes it is, it's the belief that there is no god.  Theism is the belief that there is a god, and theism is, of course, divided into different religions.  You tell me- if it's possible to do something for your belief in a god, why is it somehow impossible to do something because you believe there is no god? 
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kal444 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015
Yes your correct, Stalin promoted atheism but not to spread it, it was to spread power, his just like khan who did all those things over the pacific(I'm American) for himself I won't defend a person but I'll defend name atheist, you can't group atheists so easily as you think, US/Europe and many other places have the bible MAINLY, Middle East has the Quran, the atheist community has nothing to gather them then if you're atheist... You lack faith in any god, it isn't a believe, it's a lack of it. That ISN'T a belief, It ISN'T.
And the last bit? Someone always does something for a reason, the assholes in the atheist community who yell "der iz no godz" do it to disprove god, khan did shit for power and fun, Stalin did it to spread communism.
Don't mistake someone doing something because they apparently have a label 'Atheist' hovering over them, you see people spreading atheism nowadays because like the door to door Christians/witness fellas, they think a world without magic and filled with science and the active search for answers is a better one, than believing a book that the best revision the thing had was saying 'I don't give a shit about divorce'
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Sima2001 Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2015  New member
true , ive readed that in history.
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Mickey-the-Luxray Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think it's most hilarious that one could consider the atheist countries of Asia that suppress religion to be a form of theocracy (they share many traits), despite being based around a complete lack of religious belief. It's ironic.
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2015
It is ironic that places which condemn religion as foolishness which inspires division and evil actions around the world... does the very same thing.  People, especially on dA and mostly the pseudo-intellectuals, talk about how horrible religion is and all the terrible things that happen.  Well... the USSR mandated an atheist society, and those tolerant, forward thinking communists built their society on top of pits full of the bones of dead clergy.  The problem isn't religion and the problem isn't necessarily atheism, it's people without a single fibre of morality in their bodies that don't stand up to evil.  It's all I'm trying to point out.
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the-art-junky Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, China is harsh to religion, though you are free to personal belief and you are free to practice it.  I have a friend who is working there now as an English teacher.  He tells me that is illegal to spread your belief.  He has had a really hard time there, though not due to religion.  Basically the standard of living is really low and when you get sick the medicine is not reliable or even necessarily safe.  The cities are extremely polluted.  He told me about living in the ghettos of some of the cities (they have been sending him everywhere to find work).  I'm now told he just wants to save up enough to go back to his family in South Africa.  Right now he is broke (so am I otherwise I would help).  I do what I can by staying in contact and giving encouragement.  By the way, his only support is himself and his contacts.

World problems are bigger than person beliefs, even if many common personal beliefs impact world problems sometimes for better or sometimes for worse.
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Mickey-the-Luxray Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Preach. The best way to find yourself hating an ideology is to look to the worst of it's practitioners, even if the ideology itself is harmless or at least ignorable.
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fuckshiru Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2015   Digital Artist
Why wont some of the fucking atheists in the artist comments own the fuck up to this? Why. They been doing this shit for years on Christans and Muslims and theists but when they're reminded of Stalin they find complete excuses.
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the-art-junky Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Because the statement by itself is like saying water is wet...  Of course some Atheists harm others and so do some Christians and Muslims and some Buddhists.  The difference is that Atheism does not compel one to do anything.  It is like saying that not collecting stamps is a hobby or saying that all the non-stamp collectors caused a shortage in stamp demand and therefore being a non-stamp collect is bad for the economy (ie: it makes no sense).
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fuckshiru Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015   Digital Artist
So? This stamp says 'atheists have done bad things too." And secondly, yes, there are plenty of atheists who are motivated by atheism to oppress theists.
What's pathetic is that there are plenty of ant-theists on here who play victims on this who accuse all christans of being bigots. But they find excuses for people like Stalin. Why do you refuse to admit that atheists have done bad things? 
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the-art-junky Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You didn't even read what I wrote, else you would know what I said.
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fuckshiru Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015   Digital Artist
Saying atheists cannot do bad things because atheism is a lack of belief is like saying asexuals cannot rape because asexuality is the lack of a sexuality.
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the-art-junky Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That mean you don't understand what atheism or asexuality even is?

Someone who really is an asexual would have no desire to rape because they are not interested in sex at all.  If they rape they are not asexual.

Atheism is a lack of a belief in a deity.  It says nothing else.  How is that hard to understand?
That does not mean some atheists don't do bad things.  It means one does not believe in a deity and nothing else.

How would not believing in a deity cause one to do bad things (as you seem to be implying but not actually saying) and why would you require one to acknowledge that water is wet, as I put it earlier?  I have acknowledged water is wet(atheist do bad things) and yet you seem to want to ignore this. 
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fuckshiru Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015   Digital Artist
You can be asexual and rape. Not all rapes are centred around having sexual feelings. Rape is also a form of dominance, punishment, etc. Now imagine this if you will, let's say Hitler had a strong religon.Would him killing all those Jews have anything to do with him being religious? No. His responsibility for deaths is because of his WHITE SUPREMACY.
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the-art-junky Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No, asexuality is the lack of sexual desire.  Someone who wants to feel sexual dominance is not asexual.
It is not hard to understand, but you try to make it so convoluted.  Why?

It depends on if it was his religious belief that lead him to being a white supremacist or if could find such justification in the church.

Atheism by itself can't justify anything, just as not stamp collecting is not a hobby.
Atheism in a nut shell is a statement about one's non-belief in deities.
It literally says nothing else.
It has nothing to say on morality, other than that morality doesn't come from a god.
It doesn't preclude morality nor does it demand it.
It makes no statement on an afterlife, other than the exclusion of a deity.
It does not demand a set of beliefs.
The only demand is that there is no god in the picture.
Even then it may just be that one doesn't find suitable evidence for a god and therefore finds no reason to pretend there is one.
The possibility that there is a deity is still there, but to claim to know anything about such a being is arrogant beyond reason.

That is atheism.
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2015
Not a clue why.  It's not an admission of personal guilt to admit that there are people in the world who share your belief system that have done cruddy things.  Muslims, Catholics, Atheists, you name it, that group has had bad people.  White people did slavery, I don't hate white people.  It's more dangerous, however, to justify evil actions because of a conflict of interest with the name of whatever group they subscribe to.  I have no problem condemning evil actions, whether they be done by a person who calls themselves a Christian or not, and atheists shouldn't either.
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fuckshiru Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2015   Digital Artist
Actually, black people had theirselves as slaves before white people did.
Other than that, I agree.
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2015
Right, definitely!  Was just making a point.
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fuckshiru Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2015   Digital Artist
I like how some atheists are unloading with excuses.
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Gothic-Bunny-13 Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Everyone have done something bad
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I'm an Atheist, and this is so totally futile. Nothing really has to be said. No one is motivated by Atheism to do terrible things. That would be giving Atheism waaayyy to much credit. It's a single position on a single question. Peace out. 
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2015
Any other religion is a position on the same question- atheism is just the other side of the very same coin.  Some people believed religion so foolish that they killed them for it, not unlike the desire of religious fanatical monsters who kill others in the name of whatever it is they call a god, sometimes to "save" that person and other times to condemn them.  This stamp was my way of both reminding people that we aren't all that different, and to basically say, "no more excuses, an individual must always be held accountable without a scapegoat".  Didn't expect anyone to be a fan, but I never do.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Well, for Atheists, the glaring difference between Atheists who do horrible things and Theists who do horrible things is so stark it doesn't even have to be pointed out. Atheism has no principles by which a person could interpret a motivation to do harm. Many Theistic religions have exactly that. Atheists cannot "own up" to the terrible acts of other Atheists, because there is nothing to "own up" to. Theists, if anything, are able to recognize that their particular religion contains dogmatic principles that a person could use as justification for committing atrocities. 

Well, Atheism isn't actually the opposite of religion. It is the opposite of Theism. I do agree that we need to hold individuals responsible for committing heinous acts, and that personal beliefs cannot be used as justification. Individuals commit crimes. Beliefs are only a factor. 
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